Jason used to make fun of Idols now it's opposite

[escalibur]

All I can say is f*ck this!


twitter.com/#!/CDixonAI11/status/199370153174118400


Just the idea of going 'this' commercial and mainstream makes me sick. What's next? Adam Lambert?


Are they really running out of ideas or what is going on?

[lh778]

Yeah, Idk what to think...I am kind of worried about this new album. I wonder how the new single will sound. I am doubting this album will be released any time soon, especially since they normally release a single at least 6 months before the album, so it gets played over and over and over and over again.....sigh... but regardless, it's Lifehouse....so....yay.....lol

[aminta]

As long they just help Colton Dixon with his stuff I don't mind, but I wouldn't be too thrilled if he'd be on the new Lifehouse album, but there are many fans who want this to happen.

Maybe they need some fresh young blood . I'm getting a bit worried it takes them so long, they look like zombies on their short Twitter vids, looks like they're working really hard to make it happen but maybe lack of inspiration is a problem. Or maybe they take things slower this time, with a few albums out they don't really need to rush in, but of course we are the impatient ones

There's nothing more to do but wait, no reason to think the album will not live up to expectations if we have no clue what they're doing out there...

[celticflower]

I sorta feel the same about the collab with COlton *was actually thinking of making a topic here..no n eed any more:p*

I think Jason writing with Colton for aCOlton song is fine..and I happen to like adam lambert, lol:p but yeah I get your hesitations regarding this project:-)

[Minka]

I'm not a fan of Colton or his voice, he may didn't sucked at "Everything", but to me he's just boring and I don't see anything special about him. So of course I am not thrilled about that colaboration, and I hope it will be only for his album and not LH's, but it's LH's decision whoever they want to work with and put on thier record.

On the other side it is a smart move to work with Colton, because right now he has the American Idol fame and they can use it for them, as he can use theirs for him, i's a win win situation for them.
But I also fear and see that LH are losing some of the old school fans with the direction they are going, so that sucks. But they can't make everyone happy anyway and they are the one who have to be happy with the end result and hopefully the fans will like it.


P.S.: What's up wtih Colton and that Jesus messenge thing? I think that part could hurt LH again, as they "just" got rid of the christian band label!?!

[escalibur]

May 10, 2012 7:36:39 GMT -5 Minka said:

On the other side it is a smart move to work with Colton, because right now he has the American Idol fame and they can use it for them, as he can use theirs for him, i's a win win situation for them.

Everyone remeber that LH's highest reputation was @ NNF era. Yes that was different time different world but still. Collaborating with Idols 'stars' is definitely not getting them any additional respect they've might been looking for.

There is nothing wrong with collaboration if you pick the right people. How many of us would be much more excited if they would collaborate with Eddy Vedder, Jon Foreman, Shaun Morgan, Joe Bonamassa etc..

Yes they are not (sadly) post-grunge band anymore but going this commercial and mainstream will make them like 90% of current pop artists....'no one' will remeber you after 10 years'. Now think about Pearl Jam's war against TicketMaster for example and guess who is releasing new record soon?

I can understand if you are out of ideas but how about taking a break, making some children and then get back in action?


I definitely have mixed expectations about the upcoming record. Idols logo on it would make their record sales shorter by one copy from an old school fan. Ironically that logo is not even impossible.

[Minka]

As you say, it was a different time! Everyone moved on, LH are may not as big as the Goo Goo Dolls (and GGD are only big in the USA) but LH build up a good reputation and fan base. Who says they want to additional respect, maybe they want creative freedom and to do the things they want and prefer this over reputation and respect. It is their career and as I said, I think it’s still a good move to work with Colton, despite what others (and me) think of him.

I personally would be just as excited about the people that you’ve mentioned as about Colton, so not at all. It’s just a question of personal taste and Colton seems to be their personal taste.

Does everything has to be about how commercial bands become or how mainstream they are? Why just not listening to the bands and artist that we like, it’s stupid to judge bands on how commercial/mainstream they are, everyone should just listen to the music that they like!

If you don’t want to buy their next CD because of Colton that’s your right, but how about us waiting if he will even be on the CD and how the new songs will sound like and if we like those songs?

I never saw them as post-grunge band and have no idea where that labelling came from, it’s just bullsh*t.

[gogonutz]

Lifehouse always has been a mainstream band. Nothing new there. I don't really mind they are progressively going into that direction more and more. What I am a little sad about is that the songwriting has gone from consistently very inspirational on the first two albums to a more generic sound and lyrical content. There still are songs that come off inspirational but the albums aren't consistent in that department, and often the most inspirational songs don't even make the album cut and end up being bonus material.

The collaborations, they don't bother me too much, whether they are for others' albums or their own, collaborations give you fresh ideas and even bad ideas can be an inspiration to turn around a funk. Could jumpstart something new and exciting. Besides, I don't think Colton Dixon was a bad singer and I think he has a certain exciting quality to him. So maybe he and Lifehouse can inspire each other. I see no problems in that.

And mainstream or not, I don't think that's really relevant.. as long as the songs mean something and you can decide for yourself if you like them/relate to them. In the end it's about how a song makes you feel. If the songs don't make you feel anything then I understand your disappointment, if the songs still do, then I don't see a lot of problems. I don't think it's because a band is mainstream or not that you do or don't feel something, because that's totally irrelevant. Cause essentially music is about meaning and feeling.

And when songs get massproduced and sound like the next song (which is what a lot of people think mainstream is, which isn't really the case) the feeling kind of gets beaten out of it. I don't think Lifehouse has gotten that far down the ladder, but the past couple of albums do seem to have a tendency towards a more generic sound/lyrical content, which I would love to see dialed back a little, because that was what made Lifehouse special for me in the first place.

[lh778]

The direction that I feel they are going in, gives me little hope for them releasing a rare/b-side album. Which I would like to consist of for example some older or reproduced songs such as any of Jason Wade's songs that he made for The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe or anything from Blyss era. If they were to make an album after this next one, it will probably be a best of.

Or if they would do a rare/b-side album, all the songs would probably be the ones that we all have lol. Nothing new or remade.

And definitely no FKA songs....so a Dance remake would never happen. I would love to hear songs like No Name Face and Song For Pete and new songs no one else have heard about.

For this next album, I will still buy, and try and collect all the b-sides (unreleased tracks) that are available I just am getting worried because they don't even have their title of their new album nor of their single yet and it almost halfway through the year...the way they are going, they will probably release their single in June/July then the next album in Nov/Dec or get pushed back just like Smoke & Mirrors.

P.s. OH! And did anyone check wikipedia? Look up Lifehouse.....what the heck is "When Fallen Angels FLy" Idk who got the source for that....but I would like that to be their title of their next album...lol

[idlewild]

I don't remember reading about Jason making fun of AI? Seeing how they are complete BFFs with Daughtry. Ah, who knows what is truly going on?

I don't suppose we are in any position to condemn what they're doing because it is completely the decision of the label their choice after all. I think it's only important to acknowledge that NNF and SC will always be there and there is no way any one would be able to tamper with what those albums mean to us. The next couple of releases might not be our cup of tea, or could even enrage us, but it is those gems that will always remind us that Lifehouse wrote those songs that made the most impact on us.

I'm rather ashamed to admit this, but I have on more than one occasion walked out on a conversation pertaining to negativity surrounding Lifehouse and did not defend them. I feel like an awful fan sometimes.

May 10, 2012 12:16:16 GMT -5 lh778 said:

The direction that I feel they are going in, gives me little hope for them releasing a rare/b-side album. Which I would like to consist of for example some older or reproduced songs such as any of Jason Wade's songs that he made for The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe or anything from Blyss era. If they were to make an album after this next one, it will probably be a best of.

P.s. OH! And did anyone check wikipedia? Look up Lifehouse.....what the heck is "When Fallen Angels Fly"; Idk who got the source for that....but I would like that to be their title of their next album...lol

I have completely forgotten about Dear Mr Tumnus and that whole side project. I am still 100% intrigued by the idea of it though - even if it's meant to be a worship album - but if it produces songs as amazing as Dance, I am all up for it. Does anyone know who (Dreamworks or Geffen?) officially owns the rights to these songs if they were to be released?

LOL @ When Fallen Angels Fly. No. Just, no.

Offtopic, but:

Am I the only one who kinda wants Lifehouse to write the score for a film, perhaps even a single for a superhero related one since even Soundgarden has jumped on that wagon? Just me? Okay I'll keep the Avengers high to myself. like how Eddie Vedder did for Into the Wild or even DeVotchKa for Little Miss Sunshine. I reckon LH would have potential to produce an excellent soundtrack, seeing how perfect some songs such as Good Enough or even Everybody is Someone relates to the movie being written for.

[escalibur]

May 10, 2012 9:30:30 GMT -5 Minka said:

As you say, it was a different time! Everyone moved on, LH are may not as big as the Goo Goo Dolls (and GGD are only big in the USA) but LH build up a good reputation and fan base. Who says they want to additional respect, maybe they want creative freedom and to do the things they want and prefer this over reputation and respect. It is their career and as I said, I think it’s still a good move to work with Colton, despite what others (and me) think of him.

By respect I meant if you want to collaborate with the real musicians then you have to have some 'respect' in music business. This can be good or bad and also it can be understood in many ways but that was my point.

May 10, 2012 9:30:30 GMT -5 Minka said:

I personally would be just as excited about the people that you’ve mentioned as about Colton, so not at all. It’s just a question of personal taste and Colton seems to be their personal taste.

Probably we will never know the actual truth behind this. One thing I don't like about them is not to have any negative opinions about anything. 'Nothing's perfect' right? Yes it is safe not to say anything you dont need to but still.

May 10, 2012 9:30:30 GMT -5 Minka said:

Does everything has to be about how commercial bands become or how mainstream they are? Why just not listening to the bands and artist that we like, it’s stupid to judge bands on how commercial/mainstream they are, everyone should just listen to the music that they like!

I used to listen eg. Nickelback when they werent this mainstream as they are today. Sadly that mainstream means that the band is musically destroyed by overproduction and the whole sound sounds too perfect to be believeble. Same story can be told for Linkin Park etc...

May 10, 2012 9:30:30 GMT -5 Minka said:

If you don’t want to buy their next CD because of Colton that’s your right, but how about us waiting if he will even be on the CD and how the new songs will sound like and if we like those songs?

I never said that. I said that I have mixed expectations about the record and I didn't meant Colton I meant Idols logo.

May 10, 2012 9:30:30 GMT -5 Minka said:

I never saw them as post-grunge band and have no idea where that labelling came from, it’s just bullsh*t.

NNF and SC can definitely be labeled as post-grunge. Like it or not.

[celticflower]

all I can say is there nothing wrong with thinking out of the box: why label a band as grunge, christian or whatever *I know media tends to do that but that does not mean we have to:p* if you appreciate the music, just do and if you don';t dont:p

btw about the title: I like it a lot too, but it does not feel lifehousy to me *I imght be wrong, but yeah, that and Bryce said they did not have a title yet..

[aminta]

May 10, 2012 15:38:08 GMT -5 idlewild said:

LOL @ When Fallen Angels Fly. No. Just, no.

Offtopic, but:

Am I the only one who kinda wants Lifehouse to write the score for a film, perhaps even a single for a superhero related one since even Soundgarden has jumped on that wagon? Just me? Okay I'll keep the Avengers high to myself. like how Eddie Vedder did for Into the Wild or even DeVotchKa for Little Miss Sunshine. I reckon LH would have potential to produce an excellent soundtrack, seeing how perfect some songs such as Good Enough or even Everybody is Someone relates to the movie being written for.

Good I'm not the only one not enthusiastic about that album title

And I always imagined Jason writing soundtracks for movies... on his retirement . But would be cool if he'd do that with Lifehouse some time soon.

[lh778]

May 10, 2012 15:38:08 GMT -5 idlewild said:

I have completely forgotten about Dear Mr Tumnus and that whole side project. I am still 100% intrigued by the idea of it though - even if it's meant to be a worship album - but if it produces songs as amazing as Dance, I am all up for it. Does anyone know who (Dreamworks or Geffen?) officially owns the rights to these songs if they were to be released?

LOL @ When Fallen Angels Fly. No. Just, no.

Offtopic, but:

Am I the only one who kinda wants Lifehouse to write the score for a film, perhaps even a single for a superhero related one since even Soundgarden has jumped on that wagon? Just me? Okay I'll keep the Avengers high to myself. like how Eddie Vedder did for Into the Wild or even DeVotchKa for Little Miss Sunshine. I reckon LH would have potential to produce an excellent soundtrack, seeing how perfect some songs such as Good Enough or even Everybody is Someone relates to the movie being written for.

lol, I think the fake title is different, not bad though. I do not know who owns the rights to those songs. I am guessing the side project of Mr. Tumnus is scrapped. And Lifehouse to do the score for the next Avengers! Yes! haha. I would like to see something like that.

[lh778]

May 11, 2012 14:48:44 GMT -5 dana said:

May 11, 2012 14:30:20 GMT -5 dana said:

Yes. Thank you. I totally agree.

On that note, I don't get a good feeling at all from Smoke & Mirrors. But it is fascinating the range they have between the albums. I didn't feel disappointed when I first heard S&M, I was pissed off! lol. Halfway Gone, HTGT, ND, Don't Wake Me When it's Over, In Your Skin....honestly, hate the message. It's all about blaming other people.

I won't deny they sound good. Especially live. But I don't really want to listen to them. Smoke and Mirrors and Falling In I really like. Best of Me, I like the way it sounds a lot, like the 80's or something. But don't really like the message. Blaming other people.

Then you start thinking. Is this really what Jason thinks? lol. If he does, it kind of pisses you off. And if it's not what he thinks, if they're just negative ideas people came up with, then it really pisses you off!!!

I would argue also that the reason they have 2 million followers on facebook is because of You and Me and Broken, not HG, and maybe because Asian countries think they are a Christian band (all the Everything church videos!). I would be curious to know everyone elses opinion on this.

I honestly don't mind S&M. I was disappointed, it seems every album since SC they have been going away (definitely lyrically ) from how they use to sound. I am fine with change, however I don't relate spiritually to a lot of their new songs as compared to their older ones.

I sometimes prefer the extra bonus tracks that you can get rather than some of the actual tracks that are on the albums. I will still appreciate them, and they are amazing live and very nice people.

I will always support them, I just have a kind of bad feeling about this next album. If it's going the way I think....it may be really different for even my taste, but only time will tell. As long as Jason doesn't curse in any songs, then I am happy. I like that about them, they don't need to curse. The fact that he said hell in two different songs, annoyed me. I don't think there are any more. I can't think off hand.