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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2012 22:36:10 GMT -5
We've only heard one minute of each song, but I already have many of these songs stuck in my head in a good way. I think I will be able to know more about how I feel about the songs lyrically (which is important to me as a person who writes) once I can hear the full songs. There is no way I could extrapolate the full power of a song from a one minute clip.
The thing I am excited about and think is a really cool direction for them is how they put a lot of different influences together. So far I've heard jazz, country, western, pop, rock, blues, alternative and everything in between. But it blends so WELL in my opinion that I don't notice the collision. To me, some of these songs are like when you accidentally dip your chocolate in peanut butter. I think it's super interesting and I think it's actually groundbreaking. I think in retrospect people will look back at this album and see the genius in how well crafted these songs are.
I think the collaborations on this record were pretty awesome and on point... Natasha Bedingfield and Peter Frampton? That's exciting stuff for them and for me as a listener.
I believe the band is genuinely behind this album, and I believe they have good reason to be. I don't know if anyone saw the "making of" video, but Jason said the criteria for them putting a song on the album was whether it gave them chills or not and that they hoped that the music was received well by fans but he knew that it had to make himself as an artist feel a certain way personally. That seems genuine to me. Whether that translates to each individual is going to be up to how you interpret their art... but that's always going to be subjective based on your expectation and experiences and tastes as a fan.
I will be curious to find out if some people's opinions change after hearing the full songs... and also how these songs come across live. I'm also very curious to know which songs were done acoustically because for many of us who are fans of the organic sounds, that's sometimes where the magic is for us.
Anyway... carry on with the debating ... haha! Just wanted to present a few of my observations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2012 22:40:58 GMT -5
The only thing I wholeheartedly disagree with here is Disarray's opinion that MB20 records the same song over and over. Couldn't disagree more. This is my obsessive need to make peace, and I might be wrong, but I actually interpreted Disarray as saying that Lifehouse was LIKE Matchbox 20 in that way... NOT recording the same song over and over. But now that I read it back, I see how it could read both ways. |
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Post by celticflower on Nov 30, 2012 3:02:17 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with arguing I think, as long as, like has been happening so far, it's all respectful:-D you do not have to share anyone's opinion!
what I am a bit hmm about is that Jason seems to give away the songwriting to other people too much (a collabo:p is cool can open up a song, but if ,as Jude says regarding Nobody listen, the lyrics are written completely by someone else, where does that leave Lifehouse as a band? and indeed I'd like some more involvement of the rest of the band instead of looking for people outside to contribte.
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Post by drawnout on Nov 30, 2012 4:10:40 GMT -5
so far I can tell I will like the album: a song has to grab me or it does not..btr does not, nobody listen does not..most of the other songs do:D Me too!!!! Those 2 songs really do nothing for me. I haven't heard Nobody Listen enough but as of right now I don't think I like it. My first reaction was a little... I honestly didn't know what to think. So many different sounds. I was kinda like what the heck is this?  ? With a couple of stand outs right away. Then I went through them again and I felt better about it. I still can't fully judge it until it's heard thoroughly. Right away I loved Right Back Home, love the sounds of that one. Always Somewhere Close is the other one I gravitated to. That's one side of Lifehouse I'm used to hearing. Only You're The One and Barricade I like. Pins And Needles sounds like it could be fun. It has a bit of a throwback sound to me, it needs the double clap in it though  . I like the music to Moveonday. Aftermath is a tricky song for me, piano based songs are beautiful but they're so sad. Sometimes I try and avoid them cause they bring me down. that's my 2 cents |
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Post by escalibur on Nov 30, 2012 11:32:34 GMT -5
After listening these clips for a few days my opinion about the whole record (including sound, autotune, blues, pop, rock, country, techno, trance, acid house, whatever ) is... what a mess Seriously there is too much of everything and too little of that 'something'.  Apart from taking a break if they want something really new then they should consider another producer. I dont think Jude will ever be even near what Ron Aniello already is. Only You're The One is so Darren Hayes style. |
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Post by lh778 on Nov 30, 2012 13:18:19 GMT -5
I like Darren Hayes....
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Post by celticflower on Nov 30, 2012 14:04:30 GMT -5
why would it have to be one particular style? I think mixing styles (or not thinking too much about what style it is) can actually work quite well..and I think that with most of the songs it works! and yeah nothing wrrong with Darren hayes although I got more of a bon jovi feel from some of the songs:p
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Post by escalibur on Nov 30, 2012 17:37:49 GMT -5
why would it have to be one particular style? I think mixing styles (or not thinking too much about what style it is) can actually work quite well..and I think that with most of the songs it works! and yeah nothing wrrong with Darren hayes although I got more of a bon jovi feel from some of the songs:p There is nothing wrong in mixing different styles. Actually it is very refreshing and good IF you do it properly. I'm a fan of nu metal and bands like Globus. If your music is telling that you can't decide what to do then mixing might be the actual problem. I would like LH to explore different styles while keeping their raw sound present aswell. Almeria just doesnt sound good. How many of us could expect that Jason will use autotune after all these years. That's a really big big shame. It's like plastic surgery where you are pretending like no one is noticing anything.  |
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Post by lh778 on Nov 30, 2012 19:23:33 GMT -5
Well, I am curious to see how these songs will be performed live in concert. When Between The Raindrops was played live a couple of times, it wasn't all that good. Now, I really enjoy it. So perhaps some people may enjoy these songs when they play them live? Who knows. I just think that the album is different. I like it, maybe not as much as their others, but more than half the album is getting stuck in my head and is growing on me. I still can't wait to hear all the songs and such.
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Post by drawnout on Dec 1, 2012 4:14:26 GMT -5
Only You're The One is so Darren Hayes style. Oh my gosh, it is! Would have never in my life thought those two would ever be compared cause they're so different. Lifehouse and Darren Hayes are my all time favorites, must be why I like it . I do get a little Bon Jovi feel to it as well... on some songs. |
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Post by YesNoMaybe on Dec 2, 2012 5:08:46 GMT -5
The album is really a mix of styles. I guess you can call it messy. At first I was a bit confushed as well, because it's less of a coherent whole. However, if the songs are too much of the same style, an album can become boring very quickly. I'll use Mumford and Sons as an example. Although I really like their songs, each song sounds like the song before that one. Listening to one of their songs is ok. But listening to their entire album is just plain boring (at least to me). With Almeria, I think it might be the other way around. The songs do not sound perfect and coherent together. But the songs individually are really good songs. I'm starting to love the different sounds. And yes, I agree that using autotune is a shame. I try to poke through that a little and pretend that it's not there. If you're able to do that, the songs themselves are pretty terrific I get a bit of the Bon Jovi vibe on Moveonday. Also, some of the songs remind me of a different band. I hope people are not going to hate me for making this comparison, and in no way is this meant as an insult, because I quite like the music of this other band. Only You're the One and Always Somewhere Close (both songs I like) really make me think of Westlife (yes the boyband)... |
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Post by celticflower on Dec 2, 2012 5:49:37 GMT -5
well if it's a confluence of styles they wanted, I guess they succeeded:p and nothing wrong with westlife: need to listen to the snippets again to see if I agree:D
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Post by packers on Dec 2, 2012 12:34:36 GMT -5
So how can you tell that he is using Autotune? On what songs? It would be a shame if it was all of them but I just don't hear it on the two singles...maybe I can't tell. I don't know.
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Post by disarray4 on Dec 2, 2012 15:13:55 GMT -5
The snippets are getting better to me
I think Gotta be tonight, Moveonday, Only you're the one, Aftermath, Rolling off the stone and Always somewhere close are good songs.
Right back home sounds like a country song to me. In a good way. I like it. I think Nobody listen is really catchy. Not that it sounds like Here tomorrow gone today, but it's a bit in the same style i think.
We can hear it in 9 days!
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Post by klein on Dec 2, 2012 16:47:53 GMT -5
So how can you tell that he is using Autotune? On what songs? It would be a shame if it was all of them but I just don't hear it on the two singles...maybe I can't tell. I don't know. Pretty much every band you hear on the radio these days tune the singer's vocals to some degree. Lifehouse included (except for the first 2 albums). This is a result of the public wanting this level of perfection so it's not entirely the band's fault, it's just kind of the reality of this generation of music. It just sucks when it is done so badly that the tuning becomes obvious. I heard one song so far on this album where the tuning was a bit overkill (I think it was a part of Gotta Be Tonight). It's a bit hard to hear if you've never paid attention to it or noticed it before. |
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? With a couple of stand outs right away. Then I went through them again and I felt better about it. I still can't fully judge it until it's heard thoroughly.
. I like the music to Moveonday. Aftermath is a tricky song for me, piano based songs are beautiful but they're so sad. Sometimes I try and avoid them cause they bring me down.
Apart from taking a break if they want something really new then they should consider another producer. I dont think Jude will ever be even near what Ron Aniello already is.
