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Post by peaceout on Jul 3, 2007 18:50:52 GMT -5
I found this message board through the lifehousemusic boards, and I used to visit lifehousefans quite a bit - and what I don't understand is why all of you can't make the lifehousemusic boards the NEW lifehousefans, instead of having to come here!!?? It's like you guys are too good for it and don't want to have anything to do with new fans. All I've been reading from most of you is negative, whether it's about having to pay $40 for the fan club, or getting pissed because people are interested in Jason, Bryce and Rick's looks. Don't you think that if you were TRUE fans that you would happily support them, and not try to shoo away new fans?? And before lifehousefans went down I read a bunch of posts that were nothing but insults towards their album booklet and towards their new appearance/clothing. If I were any of the guys in the band and I read all that nonsense, I would get my feelings hurt. I just think you all, (or most of you) here, are like a possessive cult who secretly don't want the band to get bigger. Am I wrong? Think about it.
I am a HUGE Lifehouse fan but I would never try to get involved in their lives to the point where I start insulting them for growing and changing. And I hope that they develop TONS of new fans, even if they're only interested in Jason cuz he's hot, cuz I want them to be successful! Anyone with me???
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Post by gogonutz on Jul 3, 2007 19:06:24 GMT -5
You make a good point, but I don't think your point is completely valid.
First of all, this is by no means the new Lifehousefans. I never had the intention of making a new Lifehousefans. This is merely a back up that I created back in the day when the self-titled was released, because a lot of stuff was happening on LHF, and some of us just wanted a place to talk to each other, more like a community, but still Lifehouse related. Later on, more people joined (this board was never really a secret, though I must admit that in the early beginnings we didn't really invite many people either, but since there was Lifehousemusic & Lifehousefans, we didn't really think it would hurt, since this was only a very minor board.) (and it still is, actually). But now that Lifehousefans is down, we are trying to let everyone know that they are welcome here, longtime fans, newbies, JIHers, BIHers, RIHers, whoever wants to join, is welcome. And that we actually have active moderating here, well, that's not so stupid, is it? It's quite common on most of the boards online. It's just to keep things nice and organized. And besides, I listen to everyone's input. Everyone can come with suggestions, comments or remarks, and I promise I will carefully consider those.
Second, being a real fan doesn't mean that you must like all and everything they do. It means that you are also critical. So yeah, if we think that things could've been better (mind that we are pretty much just talking about creative stuff like booklet art, merch, clothing & music/lyrics) then we do speak our minds. It is not to 'attack' Lifehouse, it is merely our opinion and constructive criticism. And also, everyone here shows the utmost respect to the band. We might have been harsh towards Geffen at times, but I think that although we should've worded it a little better sometimes, we had good reason for it. There was no pre-release promotion for this album at all, so the outside world didn't even know an album was gonna be released. They do seem to be making up for it now, and we appreciate that very much, but it doesn't mean we can't be critical about what's happened already. We do this because we care.
Third. We don't like the fan club, well, why can't we do that? We've had experiences with Lifehouse and Lifehouse street teams in the past, and not all those experiences were positive to be honest. Also, it does involve us (hence the fan in fan club), so I would say we're entitled to an opinion. And the more we know about it, the calmer we've gotten, I would say.
And we don't get involved in their lives more than they want us to. But consider this: Lifehouse is a big part of OUR lives. So yeah, sometimes we do have selfish feelings about being able to continue meeting the band and things like that. But I think we all wish the guys the best. And if that means they'll grow to a band that sells out arenas and gains billions and billions of fans, so be it. But don't tell me we can't say that we like, appreciate and most of all, cherish what we have now, because it is dear and special to us. It doesn't mean we don't want them to grow and become huge, it just means that we are humans and that we like what we have right now.
Oh, and the reason that we like this board better than Lifehousemusic's forum, it has nothing to do with not liking new people or anything. Otherwise we would've kept this a secret, which we don't, because everyone's welcome. It is because we don't like the way things are setup on that forum. Besides, most of us DO visit that forum as well.
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Post by savemeimdtba on Jul 3, 2007 19:24:29 GMT -5
(I didn't read all of Koens post yet but felt the need to reply anyways)
heh, this made me laugh...
1. Just because we are loyal fans of Lifehouse doesn't mean we can't disagree with some of the things they do. I'm not going to love every single choice they make but that doesn't mean my love for them as a band changes. I didn't like the cd booklet, it doesn't make sense.. that's my choice - i'm sure the guys have opinions and respect ours as well (as they changed the cover because of our opinions). We don't have to be scared of what the band will think of what we say 'cause in the end we love them and everyone has a right to weigh in their thoughts.
2. No, I don't want ANY straight up "IHers"; meaning that's all they care about, it's all good if you love the music AND find them attractive - I do sometimes, but if you just love them because of their looks then no, I don't like that. If that makes me stuck up then so be it. I'm not going to chastise them or anything but i'm not going to outright support it either.
3. As Koen said all fans are welcome to come here - most of us personally do not like the Lifehousemusic forums, it's a poor setup (better than it was, but still not perfect), I've gotten used to not being there and i'm happy with that. The posts that show up over there are extremely annoying to me "Whose the hottest?", etc. etc. I'm sorry, I don't enjoy those kinds of topics. I don't see a problem with us wanting a more... "engaging" type of conversation.
4. I don't secretly want this band to stay small; I openly want that. I don't think that's something to be ashamed of. Most of us want them to have as much success as they can but also stay within our reach - it's a difficult balance.
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Post by RunningAway on Jul 3, 2007 20:25:31 GMT -5
I basically agree with everything koen and kristi said. we're not trying to be selfish. you said yourself you found this forum because of a post on lifehousemusic.com. there you go. if we were being selfish, you would have never known about this forum.
being a true fan doesn't mean you blindly follow and love everything a band does. that WOULD make us a "possessive cult." i have a mind and an opinion, as well as others, and i'm allowed to express it. plus, none of us "attacked" the band. personally, i like the album art, i know a lot of people don't and that's completely fine. the guys aren't going to run to their rooms crying because some people think the art is scary. i think the harshest comments were venting about Geffen's non-existant promotion, until just recently, and the "fan club" because of its cost. i don't recall anyone ever attacking the band or any of its members.
i'm all for having new fans. i love it when people ask me, "who sings this song? i really like it." but i agree with kristi in saying that the ones who just scream all through a concert, "jason, you're sooo hot!" are not there for the same reason i am. they don't care about the music. if these guys were butt ugly, these fans wouldn't be there. do i find them attractive? absolutely, but i'm here because their music has been apart of my life and has help me in a way that no one else could.
There's more to being successful than the number of fans you have.
i'm sorry you feel like we're being snotty, or you think that we think we're "better than the rest, " because we don't. and maybe if you would stick around and see how amazing most of the people are on this board, you'll change your mind.
(of topic: kristi, i just noticed bryce's eyebrow piercing twinkles in your siggy. that's awesome.)
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Post by mybandrocks on Jul 3, 2007 21:41:29 GMT -5
I am a newbie and have no diea what you guys are talking about
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Post by gogonutz on Jul 3, 2007 22:01:43 GMT -5
I am a newbie and have no diea what you guys are talking about Well, as long as you are enjoying your stay here, I think it's all fine  |
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Post by FadedJade on Jul 3, 2007 22:08:37 GMT -5
I agree with everything said thus far and would like to add that you really just stumbled into lhfans.com at a bad time. It's rarely negative, it just happened that everyone was already really frustrated by the lack of promotion for the cd before it came out and suddenly there were all these odd/out of character choices being made that we happened to not like.
And I'd also like to reiterate that we don't stick around the official mb because as far as message boards go, it's a really terrible setup and there's never really been any moderation there at all. Of course, there weren't active mods on lhfans, but being lesser known, and on a much better system, it's much easier to moderate ourselves.
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Post by kris0l0gy on Jul 3, 2007 23:52:00 GMT -5
this board has been around longer than the lifehousemusic one has. and my recollection of the old lifehousemusic board was one of horrible memories of bad moderation and some serious threats by immature at the end which is what ultimately closed it.
and i think lifehouse has some of the kindest fans online. a lot of other communities i belong to for larger bands are very snotty and would never offer up their rare media and collections like eric has on his website.
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Post by blufindr on Jul 4, 2007 4:20:53 GMT -5
hm... i find it funny that this guy's been around since like this morning and is already bagging all of us for having a say.
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Post by Minka on Jul 4, 2007 7:47:42 GMT -5
I really don't have anything to add that wasn't already said by everyone else, I can only say that I agree on everything. If you would stay here for a while, than you'd maybe realize that we're not as bad as you think. Just because we dislike posts about how hot one of the guys is or what color their eyes are doesn't mean we're the evil one  And we also don't think of us that we're "better". |
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Post by jolene102 on Jul 4, 2007 9:16:18 GMT -5
^ agrees!
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Post by tonya on Jul 4, 2007 10:22:16 GMT -5
peaceout, tell us how you really feel. Don't hold anything back.
Edit: oh man, I've never seen anyone with negative karma.
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Post by savemeimdtba on Jul 4, 2007 11:25:37 GMT -5
heh it amused me  |
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Post by Minka on Jul 4, 2007 11:38:21 GMT -5
Edit: oh man, I've never seen anyone with negative karma. That happens when someone that doesn't knows us comes over and starts with his first post to talk about how bad and evil we are |
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Post by gogonutz on Jul 4, 2007 11:53:08 GMT -5
I set his/her karma back to 50, because I can actually understand his/her point of view.
And I want him/her to feel welcome here, and not afraid to post again, otherwise that wouldn't be very nice of us. And as some of you said, if this person spends some time around here and gets to know us, and what we are about, she/he will see that we're just trying to have a good time together, with whoever wants to join us, and that we all wish the best for Lifehouse, both in their lives & in their (music) careers.
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. I'd also like to know if anybody has an HD copy of Lifehouse at Pinkpop 2003. BY far their best concert ever