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Post by adhara on Mar 8, 2008 16:22:00 GMT -5
Hi Mary, Here's a website with information about each candidate's position that is as basic as it gets: 2008electionprocon.org/I think it's really great that you're interested and willing to learn more to make an informed decision. A lot of people (and this has nothing to do with my parents  ) vote based on name recognition, rumors, stereotypes and what not. If you're looking to distinguish Clinton and Obama based on issues, that's going to be very difficult because they have similar stances on a lot of things, so you might have to base your decision on other factors. I'm going to be upfront and say that I'm an Obama supporter. Lots of reasons why, but my main one is that out of all the candidates, he is the one that most inspires people to care about what's going on around them. I think any one of them can push a bill/issue into Congress and have our legislators fight over this and that. However, Obama can get us -- normal everyday citizens, to demand that lawmakers take action to pass laws that better our lives and the lives of future generations. I think that's what a democracy should be all about. I don't want my vote to put someone in office who will try to do everything by her/himself and fail because they lack support from the general public. I want my vote to put someone in office who will empower us to become an engaged, caring, America. lol ok I think I've said too much. I guess I care about this so much because I study health/social policy and there is so much at stake. |
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Mar 8, 2008 16:29:31 GMT -5
I'll remind you that who the Vice President may not be decided by the nominee themselves. If they go into the convention without a clear nominee that'll probably decided in the back room while they decide who the presidental nominee. Which is why have a feeling that if this gets to the convention the only clear option would be a Hillary/Obama ticket. I don't see either one accepting the Vice Presidental nomination, because by the end of this I don't see the two of them getting along very well. |
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Post by mary on Mar 8, 2008 17:37:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the website!
I do like Obama for the fact that he seems to be the first candidate in a LONG TIME, who is for the everyday citizen.
Hilary seems like she would be stern and bitchy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for a female wanting to be president. But she doesn't seem very friendly. When she meets people, it seems like an act to me, whereas Obama seems genuinely interested and happy to be meeting people. Then again, all of it could be an act. I was reading how some of you are saying he isn't playing dirty politics. His way could be a new form of politics. Be nice on the outside, then turn your back and go crazy. (Yeah Im weird. I think of situations or possible things that can occur, etc. and half the time they make no sense, so pay no attention to my weird ramblings.)
My boyfriend thinks he is a racist, but Im not exactly sure why???
In the end, I think Obama and Hilary are both intelligent, qualified, and just...know what they are doing. So I think either one would make a good president. As for McCain....He is also intelligent, qualified, etc. And I give him points for fighting in Vietnam and being a POW, but I just thing a Democrat should be in position this time
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Post by gogonutz on Mar 8, 2008 22:04:49 GMT -5
as for US politics I lean more towards Democrats than Republicans, but I have to say, that in a long time, if a Republican would become the US president, I'm glad it would be McCain, because he gives me a way better feeling than a lot of any Republican candidate in a long time. I might not agree on everything he stands for, I do think I would trust him as the leader of my country.
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Post by gurlnlifemagazine on Mar 8, 2008 22:35:30 GMT -5
as for US politics I lean more towards Democrats than Republicans, but I have to say, that in a long time, if a Republican would become the US president, I'm glad it would be McCain, because he gives me a way better feeling than a lot of any Republican candidate in a long time. I might not agree on everything he stands for, I do think I would trust him as the leader of my country. Agreed. |
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Post by gogonutz on Mar 8, 2008 22:44:42 GMT -5
hehe, there was some lovely guy on CNN a minute ago, saying that Ron Paul will be president because he has crazy Ninja Skills  that gave me a good laugh |
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Post by gogonutz on Mar 9, 2008 0:11:12 GMT -5
Obama won WY's caucus 61/38 (as expected)
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Post by gurlnlifemagazine on Mar 9, 2008 1:02:34 GMT -5
You damn right he did  |
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Post by savemeimdtba on Mar 9, 2008 12:42:48 GMT -5
hehe, there was some lovely guy on CNN a minute ago, saying that Ron Paul will be president because he has crazy Ninja Skills that gave me a good laugh haha I saw that! I can guarentee that kid spends his days on Digg.com |
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Post by mary on Mar 10, 2008 13:44:12 GMT -5
just a random thing, I can't say the word "caucus." Instead, I say cockus.  My memory of HS government is a bit foggy. What happens when both candidates are pretty much tied? How do they determine who will be the main running candidate? |
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Mar 10, 2008 15:48:53 GMT -5
There really isn't a contingency plan for a tie that I know of. Right now the Democrats have a total of 4048 delegates, which could by theory end in a tie. It was 4049, but two super delegates are no longer eligable to vote and only one has been added. I think if it somehow ended 2024-2024 they'd just keep voting at the convention until someone got a breakthrough.
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Mar 10, 2008 15:52:08 GMT -5
oh, and it's probably about to be down to 4047, because Eliot Spitzer the Governor of New York is likley to resign soon and would lose his status as Super Delegate more than likely. If that happens a tie would be impossible.
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Mar 11, 2008 20:02:50 GMT -5
Obama won Mississippi tonight. He'll net somewhere between 7 and 11 delegates, which completly negates what Clinton did March 4th
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Post by gurlnlifemagazine on Mar 12, 2008 6:31:13 GMT -5
Someone was saying last night that he'll get in delegates from the last two elections what Hillary is expected to win from Pennsylvania. So this will leave us were we are now. And if they re-do Michigan and Florida (which I think they shouldn't) then it'll probably end up being a tie spliting the two states. Or maybe a close contest in Michigan.
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Post by ledvedderman on Mar 12, 2008 9:59:34 GMT -5
I think right now Barack Obama is clearly in the drivers seat. Hillary is being a backseat driver and getting pretty damn annoying. Obama will proabably lose Pennsylvania, there's no doubt about that. All the matters is how bad she beats him and what the delegates turn out like.
I think Hillary will gain up to 10 delegates out of PA, but that is no where what she needs. After PA, Obama will go on another winning streak with North Carolina, Oregon, Indiana, etc. and eliminate any kind of momentum Hillary thinks she might get from a win in PA.
Florida will go for Hillary. Michigan will probably go for Obama, but I'm not totally sold on that one. Basically they will split the delegates out of the two states, and this whole mess could have been avoided if they would have split the delegates for them both right now 50/50.
It is impossible for Hillary to catch up with Obama when it comes to pledged delegates. Well, not impossible, but she would have to gain 66% of the delegates that are up for grabs in every state to catch up. I don't see that happening with the winning streak Obama will go on after PA, and the fact that when she wins, she wins by a small margin. When Obama wins, he blows her out of the water.
I'm also sick of the Clinton campaign making boneheaded comments, and when the Obama camp calls them out on it, the Clinton camp plays it like Obama is playing the race card. Out of the whole Ferraro incident, the Obama campaign hasn't said the word "racist" once. The Clinton camp is trying to turn Obama from a candidate who happens to be black, to the black candidate. That would help them big time in middle PA and it's shameful.
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) vote based on name recognition, rumors, stereotypes and what not.
. I'd also like to know if anybody has an HD copy of Lifehouse at Pinkpop 2003. BY far their best concert ever