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Post by gurlnlifemagazine on Feb 11, 2008 21:45:48 GMT -5
...and he can win in November. She will just unify the Republican party against her. Obama would draw votes from a lot of Republicans. I agree with that. Though I doubt if it matters who's running against McClain because I don't see him winning, I think Obama has the better chance. From what I've seen Obama has just gotten better and better as this race goes on, so if he continues to win as big in March then there will be no stopping him. On the republican side, Huckabee is just making a damn fool of himself. Even though I'm not a republican I'm pissed at how he's just making it difficult for McClain to win. I know he just wants to get more delegates at the convention, but to talk as if he has a rats chance in hell of getting the nomination is just delusional. Is he expecting McClain to drop out or something? I doubt he would have won these last states if Romney was still running. He mist be after something other than delegates because there is no reason for him or Ron Paul to bother continuing. |
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Feb 12, 2008 0:05:13 GMT -5
I think Huckabee still has a right to be in this race. He's winning states and as long as he does that there is no reason for him to get out. There's virtually no way for him to be able to over take McCain, but he could concivably keep McCain from getting the required majority for the nomination. If there is a second round of voting at the Republican convention all bets are off and Huckabee could end up the nominee in that senario. I don't think he's running for Vice President, because I don't think McCain would consider selecting him. Huckabee will keep running until McCain reachs 1,191 delegates.
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Post by katelyn on Feb 12, 2008 3:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by allie on Feb 13, 2008 21:09:57 GMT -5
wow.... that is rather interesting katelyn. huh.
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Post by disarray on Feb 14, 2008 10:53:47 GMT -5
...and he can win in November. She will just unify the Republican party against her. Obama would draw votes from a lot of Republicans. I'm not so sure many Republicans would vote for Obama if they are informed on his beliefs and how dramatically he wants to change the country. I love Obama and think he is a fantastic and inspirational speaker. I think he is completely wrong on the issues though, so couldn't vote for him. I love that he is kicking the crap out of Hillary. I really think her chances are pretty close to over. There is no way the super delegates can give the nomination to her if Obama has more delegates. This country would be outraged. You can't have a small group of "super delegates" deciding who the nominee is - otherwise why even allow regular people to vote? I have no doubt that Obama will be the next President. McCain is a walking turnoff to conservatives and a lot of Republicans too and they will likely just sit this election out. I'm not even sure the prospect of a Hillary presidency could motivate enough people to come out and vote for him. |
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Feb 15, 2008 0:38:59 GMT -5
I'm suprised by how much crossover appeal Obama has as well. He is really pretty liberal, but he speaks in a very post-partisan way making him seem more moderate than he actually is. I think Clinton would lose to McCain, because Clinton doesn't really have a chance at the middle and the Republican base will get over this whole McCain isn't uber conservative thing.
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Post by ledvedderman on Feb 15, 2008 13:15:42 GMT -5
You want to know who is really hoping for a Clinton-McCain general election? Mike Bloomberg. He would draw a lot of support from both sides.
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Post by gurlnlifemagazine on Feb 15, 2008 19:05:38 GMT -5
I think Huckabee still has a right to be in this race. He's winning states and as long as he does that there is no reason for him to get out. There's virtually no way for him to be able to over take McCain, but he could concivably keep McCain from getting the required majority for the nomination. If there is a second round of voting at the Republican convention all bets are off and Huckabee could end up the nominee in that senario. I don't think he's running for Vice President, because I don't think McCain would consider selecting him. Huckabee will keep running until McCain reachs 1,191 delegates. Oh, so there's a chance that Huckabee can still win? I understand his idea that no one has reached 1,191 delegates yet, so he shouldn't drop out, but doesn't this send a bad message about the party? I think that says the republicans aren't happy about McClain and they just want to vote for Huckabee because it's a vote against McClain. I think if he continues to run he's only goign to dely what I think is a easy win for McClain. BTW, I like McClain as the GOP candidate because if he wins I think he'd make a better president than Bush. I also think Tony the Tiger would make a better president than Bush, but he's not running  |
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Post by gogonutz on Feb 15, 2008 19:13:16 GMT -5
Huckabee can't win, he needs 125% of the delegates left, everyone can do the math. He's just running to get delegate support so that he will be the obvious VP pick
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Feb 15, 2008 22:25:32 GMT -5
Huckabee can't win, but he still can prevent McCain from getting the 1,191 delegates for the nomination, but that is also unlikely. I think he's still running to get of head of Romney in the delegate count. One reason is none of Republican canidates liked Romney. The Other reason is the Republican canidate that comes in second on the Republican side will likely get the nomination in 4-8 years, which seems to be a precedent on the Republican side. Huckabee isn't running for Vice President. McCain won't pick Huckabee as a running mate. Huckabee isn't really beloved throughtout the Republican party, his big support is evangelicals and those who vote on social issues. He isn't really liked by the wing of the party concerned about the economy. They don't like Huckabee becasue he's somewhere left of screw the poor.
I don't see any reason for Huckabee to get out until McCain gets his necessary delegates. As long as he is winning states, he should keep running. I mean Huckabee isn't attacking McCain, so all this is doing is keeping McCain in the headlines and not just focused on the Democrats.
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Post by gogonutz on Feb 16, 2008 4:53:04 GMT -5
Both McCain & Huckabee are voted for because of their character, aside from their policy issues. McCain is in no way gonna pick Romney, and in no way gonna pick Ron Paul, there is of course Giuliani who is his friend, but politically that would not be a good choice for McCain as he still doesn't appeal to a great deal of the Republican voters. He could go with Hunter, but Huckabee has proven that he appeals to more voters than Hunter, so McCain would cover the widest span of Republican voters with Huckabee on the ticket. Also, Huckabee is an inspirational speaker, people listen to him when he speaks, because he can present it well and he engages with his audience. He can get a message across, which is why he's still in the race, because he can still bring a message across. Together with McCain's realism and strong character I think that's the only way the Republicans have a slight chance of winning the general election. They probably won't anyway though.
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Feb 17, 2008 22:28:40 GMT -5
Huckabee doesn't really add anything to the ticket. He's a great orator, but he has economic postions that the conservative right of party think are "liberal" and seems pretty clueless about foriegn policy. He also would be very hard to sell north of the Mason-Dixon line, because his social postions are radically right. He doesn't even beleive in evolution.
McCain will likely go with someone to balance the ticket politically. I think Lindsey Graham or Mark Sanford would be possible choices for McCain. He also might add someone like Charlie Chirst who is also a Maverick republican, but would help in Florida. Also he could choose Fred Thompson.
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Post by gurlnlifemagazine on Feb 18, 2008 10:03:11 GMT -5
Okay, so Huckabee is just keeping the Republican race interesting. Okay, I'll accept that. The longer he runs the more I like McClain anyway. Not that I'll vote for him, but I have too keep an eye on the ones who's running on the other side.
When Clinton or Obama get the nomination I don't see either chosing the other as a running mate. Who do you think is a good running mate to go with either of them? I swear, I've always felt that Obama would pick Dick Durbin because of their close relationship and Dick's experience. I think Edwards would be a great running mate for Hillary.
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Post by gogonutz on Feb 18, 2008 12:28:57 GMT -5
I think Bill Richardson would be a good pick for Obama
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Post by lhrulz2007 on Feb 18, 2008 13:26:11 GMT -5
Richardson would be a good pick for Obama. It would increase his appeal in the hispanic community and would help in the Southwest. He actually would go pretty well on the bottom of either ticket. Another V.P. I like with Obama is Jim Webb. He would help in Virginia, which might be in play this cycle and would help strengthen Obama on National Security and Defense issues.
If Clinton gets the nomination, I think she might first try to get Obama. The way the campaign has gone Clinton might need to get Obama onto her ticket to help with the youth vote and african-american vote. If they're going to run together it would have to be Clinton/Obama and not Obama/Clinton. For Clinton some possible V.P. are Gen. Wesley Clark, Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, and Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio.
I think Edwards would work on the bottom of either ticket, but I don't see either of them picking him unless his 26 delegates are neccesary for one of them to win the nomination. If this thing does go all the way to the convention, I think Vice President will be picked in the same smoke-filled room that'll decide who the nominee will be.
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